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Tuesday, November 20, 2012

Chopped G22 vs. Gen4 G22

So a couple post ago I talked about taking a Gen3 Glock 22 and chopping the grip frame down to sub-compact length (ala Glock 27). The reason is better concealability, which it absolutely conceals easier than a full size Glock 22. The question is, what is given up in terms of shootability, it anything? To figure this out, I took my Gen4 G22 and the chopped G22 to the range on two separate days and shot Mike Seeklanders defensive handgun skills test, then compared scores. The difference, 3 points in favor of the Gen4 (144 to 147). To me, that is pretty insignificant and probably the difference between an okay day at the range and a little bit better day at the range. The only performance area where I feel the chopped G22 is giving something up is on the reload. It is much easier to reload a full size or compact size gripped gun because the magazine falls free a little bit easier.

So the skills test takes care of defensive shooting, but doesn't really compare precision shooting, or if anything was given up in that area. So I also shot the "300". I scored a 229 (Freestyle=85, SHO=74, WHO=70). My high score with my Gen4 G22 is 244, which I haven't repeated and abnormally high for me. I average in the low 200's, so a 229 is about on par. However this isn't and apples to apples comparison because I have factory night sights on Gen4, and Ameriglo i-dot Pro Operators on my chopped G22. I have found the type of sight to make a fairly significant difference on this drill, at least for me. It will be interesting to see if I can break the 250 mark with the chopped G22 because the sights lend themselves to a little more precision because of the thinner front blade.

Another performance area that I thought a chopped frame might hurt is split times or accuracy at speed due to increased muzzle flip. I already have an issue with visual patience when trying to shooting fast, and it seems logical that the chopped frame would give me less control over the gun at speed. To test this theory, I did a series of Bill Drills on a USPSA A-zone at 7 yards with the Gen4 G22 and then the chopped G22 for comparison on the timer.


As you can see from the timer, not much difference, the hits weren't any different either. Splits stayed in the low 0.20 range, and I dropped a 3-4 rounds over 5 runs each with both guns at that speed. That being said, it does look like there is more muzzle rise, I guess it just isn't significant enough to matter all that much.

Stay tuned for more updates.

Friday, November 16, 2012

Deal on Training

I am a huge proponent of getting firearms training. So anytime a deal comes along, I like to pass it on just in case someone might be interested.

 


Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Chopped & channeled...wait...what are we talking about??

A few weeks ago, Rob Pincus posted a video about chopping the grip frame on Glocks to get a more concealable grip size, while maintaining a longer slide length. Many feel that a longer slide has advantages over the sub-compact sized slide, primarily in sight radius, although some also say in barrel length and improved ballistic performance. After watching the video, I couldn't help but think I could pull something like that off without much trouble. Not long after that video was posted, Rob also posted about is G26L that Business End Customs built for him out of a G19. The idea looked pretty cool, so I started my research.

It seems that most commercial customizers don't take full size guns and cut the frame down to sub compact length. They all seem to go from compact to sub compact, or full size to compact. I couldn't find any rationale for it, but I couldn't find anyone who did full size down to sub compact. So I thought why not.

I found a really good deal on a police trade-in Glock 22 already set up the way I wanted for the most part. It came with Ameriglo i-dot Pro Opertor sights, and the previous owner did a pretty stellar stipple job. I prefer a more aggressive stipple, but the work he did will suffice. Initially I thought I would do the compact sized cut first so that if I screwed it up, I would still have the option of going down to sub compact. Would you believe it, I screwed up the first one. I didn't account for all the sanding I would have to do to finish out the cut, and ended up going just a little too short. It really didn't look that bad, but I knew it was a mistake and wanted a second chance.

I borrowed a G27 frame from a friend and made my marks for the sub compact cut. When I started cutting, I made sure to leave myself a little extra material on the frame for the finishing out process. This meant there was more work to do after the actual cut, but the end product was better as a result, so a fair trade off. If a G19 with chopped frame is a G26L, I have dubbed this one the G27SL for Super Long:)

I will say this, going from full size to compact is a lot easier than cutting to sub compact size because of the flush fit magazines with the sub compact size. Getting all the angles just right can be a little complicated. However, going from full size to compact is pretty straight forward, just have to leave enough material on the frame for the finishing out process.